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		<title>By: If Working for a Jerk Motivated Your Self-Employment, What Are You Motivating?</title>
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		<dc:creator>If Working for a Jerk Motivated Your Self-Employment, What Are You Motivating?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s pretty common to hear horror stories of bad bosses. Sometimes, they&#8217;re mixed with stories of great bosses &#8212; ones that become like mentors. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: grolaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>grolaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you broke the law several times.  You talk about &quot;personal responsibility&quot; but you don&#039;t or didn&#039;t act when you should have.

Where a man commits statutory rape and creates a sexually hostile work environment, you should have acted.  The police in the first instance and the EEOC in the second instance.  Since you are young enough, the 1964 civil rights act was in place when you first experienced this kind of management abuse.  You can (and, damn well should) make an anonymous Title VII complaint - the EEOC will know who made the complaint - the employer never finds out.

If you are searching for personal integrity - start by following the law.

One further thing: I&#039;ve noticed that Neanderthal managers are far more common during tough economic times - all other factors being equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you broke the law several times.  You talk about &#8220;personal responsibility&#8221; but you don&#8217;t or didn&#8217;t act when you should have.</p>
<p>Where a man commits statutory rape and creates a sexually hostile work environment, you should have acted.  The police in the first instance and the EEOC in the second instance.  Since you are young enough, the 1964 civil rights act was in place when you first experienced this kind of management abuse.  You can (and, damn well should) make an anonymous Title VII complaint &#8211; the EEOC will know who made the complaint &#8211; the employer never finds out.</p>
<p>If you are searching for personal integrity &#8211; start by following the law.</p>
<p>One further thing: I&#8217;ve noticed that Neanderthal managers are far more common during tough economic times &#8211; all other factors being equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 21:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have you been all my internet life???  Absolutely wonderful, uplifting blog!  I am recommending it to everyone I know and linked to you as well.  Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have you been all my internet life???  Absolutely wonderful, uplifting blog!  I am recommending it to everyone I know and linked to you as well.  Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 01:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had two great bosses in my life. Both of them were very hands-off. In other words they trusted me to do my job. Both had very clear goals and expectations. Both recognized me when I did a good job, which was all the time because I liked these guys so much and their trust in me made me want to excel. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had two great bosses in my life. Both of them were very hands-off. In other words they trusted me to do my job. Both had very clear goals and expectations. Both recognized me when I did a good job, which was all the time because I liked these guys so much and their trust in me made me want to excel. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!

I&#039;m fortunate enough to have the best manager a person could ask for at my current job.  I know that, because I look back at my two years here, and I can see how much I&#039;ve grown as a _person_ through his management style.  This has almost complete overlap with what you&#039;ve written about.

I think the single most important aspect of all is transparency.  My manager has put an enormous amount of effort into encouraging everyone on our team (and in the company) to use the shared wiki.  The more we use the wiki, the more transparent we are.  Thanks to this complete transparency, we&#039;ve nearly eliminated meetings from our daily and weekly lives.  Now that&#039;s an improvement in quality of work-life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fortunate enough to have the best manager a person could ask for at my current job.  I know that, because I look back at my two years here, and I can see how much I&#8217;ve grown as a _person_ through his management style.  This has almost complete overlap with what you&#8217;ve written about.</p>
<p>I think the single most important aspect of all is transparency.  My manager has put an enormous amount of effort into encouraging everyone on our team (and in the company) to use the shared wiki.  The more we use the wiki, the more transparent we are.  Thanks to this complete transparency, we&#8217;ve nearly eliminated meetings from our daily and weekly lives.  Now that&#8217;s an improvement in quality of work-life!</p>
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		<title>By: lornadoone</title>
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		<dc:creator>lornadoone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I earned a Masters Degree in Organizational Leadership with an emphasis in non-profit organizations.  Perhaps it was the Jesuit school I attended, but we were completely submerged in the idea of &quot;servant leadership.&quot;  By serving the people you&#039;re leading, you are able to elicit more buy-in, a stronger company, and a happier workforce.

As for the run-down on your previous bosses:  Thank you.  Somethimes I think I must sound like I&#039;m in denial about myself when I describe my previous bosses as (in no particular order) crazy, power-hungry, ineffective, unstable, and crazy (did I say that one already?)  I have had some doozies!  It sounds like you have, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I earned a Masters Degree in Organizational Leadership with an emphasis in non-profit organizations.  Perhaps it was the Jesuit school I attended, but we were completely submerged in the idea of &#8220;servant leadership.&#8221;  By serving the people you&#8217;re leading, you are able to elicit more buy-in, a stronger company, and a happier workforce.</p>
<p>As for the run-down on your previous bosses:  Thank you.  Somethimes I think I must sound like I&#8217;m in denial about myself when I describe my previous bosses as (in no particular order) crazy, power-hungry, ineffective, unstable, and crazy (did I say that one already?)  I have had some doozies!  It sounds like you have, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nneka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nneka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been obsessing about management lately as I am now in a situation with my first micro-manager. It&#039;s helped me to form a slogan for my management style &quot;Manage up, mentor down.&quot;

That&#039;s how I was taught to manage by the examples in my life. Whenever I was in the position, it was the easiest way to get things done and ensure that my team was happy and healthy.

Many managers might be surprised that people do better with more freedom than with more rules. I&#039;m training mine now ;-)

In Spirit,
Nneka</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been obsessing about management lately as I am now in a situation with my first micro-manager. It&#8217;s helped me to form a slogan for my management style &#8220;Manage up, mentor down.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I was taught to manage by the examples in my life. Whenever I was in the position, it was the easiest way to get things done and ensure that my team was happy and healthy.</p>
<p>Many managers might be surprised that people do better with more freedom than with more rules. I&#8217;m training mine now <img src='http://steve-olson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In Spirit,<br />
Nneka</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been very lucky.  From my first LPO (the Navy&#039;s version of a manager) through most of my civilian manager&#039;s, I&#039;ve had great manager/mentors.  The only exceptions were the few jobs I had while living in Virginia.  Maybe it&#039;s the way things are done there.  I walked out of my first job in Virginia about 3 years ago.  My last job, I yelled at the manager in front of a bunch of other people when he tried to become abusive.

Of course it helps that I&#039;m great at my job--probably partly due to having had some great managers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been very lucky.  From my first LPO (the Navy&#8217;s version of a manager) through most of my civilian manager&#8217;s, I&#8217;ve had great manager/mentors.  The only exceptions were the few jobs I had while living in Virginia.  Maybe it&#8217;s the way things are done there.  I walked out of my first job in Virginia about 3 years ago.  My last job, I yelled at the manager in front of a bunch of other people when he tried to become abusive.</p>
<p>Of course it helps that I&#8217;m great at my job&#8211;probably partly due to having had some great managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at the molester moustache.

I&#039;ve had some bad managers.  I think the worst ones are the ones who are genuinely afraid of people.  I had one manager who would hide in their office and refuse to answer the phone or reply to emails.  Then, when things started to go off the rails, they would select one of us to take the fall, and send them a nasty email asking them why they let things get so out of hand.  They had the highest attrition rate in the company, and in one month alone, over 70% of their staff resigned.

At any rate, I&#039;m out of that world now.  It&#039;s my belief that most corporations promote for the wrong reasons, such as performance or seniority.  Unless they are extremely careful to select people with proven leadership and people skills, there will always be bad managers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at the molester moustache.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had some bad managers.  I think the worst ones are the ones who are genuinely afraid of people.  I had one manager who would hide in their office and refuse to answer the phone or reply to emails.  Then, when things started to go off the rails, they would select one of us to take the fall, and send them a nasty email asking them why they let things get so out of hand.  They had the highest attrition rate in the company, and in one month alone, over 70% of their staff resigned.</p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;m out of that world now.  It&#8217;s my belief that most corporations promote for the wrong reasons, such as performance or seniority.  Unless they are extremely careful to select people with proven leadership and people skills, there will always be bad managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 11:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thought- provoking Steve. For me the best managers are those who have the people and the communication at the forefront of their minds. Without them the task can&#039;t be done well and goals and targets can&#039;t be met without some pain! But they are so often the last thing considered.
I recently had the chance to do some basic firefighter training with guys who do that job for real. To paint the picture I am a 50 year old woman. The &quot;manager&quot; told us what needed to be achieved and with good preparation we were given the freedom (regardless of age/gender/fitness/ability) to complete the task. We did - with that much trust it is not really a surprise. He emphasised the ABC of communication  - accurate, brief and clear - which is crucial in fire and rescue situations  and can be just as important in every other management situation. He provided relevant and timely feedback as we went.  And he gave the clear impression that he liked people! A great model for any manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thought- provoking Steve. For me the best managers are those who have the people and the communication at the forefront of their minds. Without them the task can&#8217;t be done well and goals and targets can&#8217;t be met without some pain! But they are so often the last thing considered.<br />
I recently had the chance to do some basic firefighter training with guys who do that job for real. To paint the picture I am a 50 year old woman. The &#8220;manager&#8221; told us what needed to be achieved and with good preparation we were given the freedom (regardless of age/gender/fitness/ability) to complete the task. We did &#8211; with that much trust it is not really a surprise. He emphasised the ABC of communication  &#8211; accurate, brief and clear &#8211; which is crucial in fire and rescue situations  and can be just as important in every other management situation. He provided relevant and timely feedback as we went.  And he gave the clear impression that he liked people! A great model for any manager.</p>
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